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Martin Bergstrom's avatar

I have mixed feelings about these degrees.

I have a BA in economics/political science and managed to stumble into data science through some combination of self teaching and free/cheap online courses. The data science bootcamps through udemy and coursera were quite helpful for walking through python in a more specific way than a generalist programming class would. However I always viewed them more as a skill tutorial to get started than as a comprehensive career guide and I would never pay more than like $60 for them. When I see resumes with analytics masters degrees, I do have that reflexive sense that the job candidate overpaid for skills the could learn on the job or self teach.

However, I’m also a confident white dude who people frequently read as smarter than I actually am. Early in my career, people were willing to take chances on me and let me try things my resume at the time probably didn’t back up. Over time those chances and projects I wasn’t quite qualified for built up into a base of skills and experience I can now take to the job market to show my qualifications without talking about my degree at all. That’s not the case for everybody, and I think it’s harder to do in today’s job market than it was in the early days.

Not all that long ago, data teams were a rag tag bunch of nerds with a patchy old server inventing processes on the fly. There was no career path or formal academic training, and those teams were willing to take on new recruits who seemed smart and scrappy and reminded them a bit of themselves. My first mentor was a Russian Studies major who taught himself programming at the public library, my other colleagues came from across the academic spectrum and only one of us had an actual computer degree. Those early teams were fairly white, male, and nerdy and that shaped who reminded them of themselves and who might get that stretch opportunity.

I do think analytics degrees serve a purpose in allowing people who might not get those same early career opportunities to break into the field in a way they might not otherwise have access to. Several of my best colleagues have talked about the importance of that masters or pricey boot camp in allowing a career transition, often women or immigrants who just needed something to get through that initial resume screen. I think that’s especially important now as we’ve codified a bit more of the formal job skills and experiences we expect in data careers since those early days.

The moral of this story is twofold: First, these degrees do help people who might have a harder time breaking into a data careers, and I try to see their pursuit on a resume as a sign of ambition as opposed to a sign of falling for a scam (I do think they’re overpriced though). Second, even as our job responsibilities become more codified, we should try to take chances on people who are bright or scrappy and don’t have the exact technical skills yet, and we should take those chances on a broader swath of people. My best hire was a recent liberal arts major who taught herself a bit of data analysis at her last job but clearly didn’t know SQL all that well. I hired her anyways and she’s now 3 promotions into her data career and running circles around me from a technical standpoint.

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Evan Sp.'s avatar

I think this is overstating the case by a lot. I work in an analytics department at a large company and most people (not me) have a masters in business or marketing analytics. I learned the same skills on the job but: a. I was opportunistic and lucky b. I still needed a data science bootcamp to learn SQL and Python. (Please don’t tell me I can learn on my own. I know my own limitations.) Most of the people I work with have foreign visas, can’t be out of work for significant periods of time, and need a dependable path.

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